[PRR-talk] Looking for O gauge PRR cabin car (caboose) marker lights(melissa twigg)
James Taverna
jwtaverna at hotmail.com
Sun Jun 8 22:07:46 EDT 2008
Mr. Steve Grabowski makes a very good casting of a brass marker light for PRR cabooses. Contact me off list if you need info on how to contact him.
Jim Taverna> From: prr-talk-request at dsop.com> Subject: PRR-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 165> To: prr-talk at dsop.com> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 21:16:09 -0400> > Send PRR-talk mailing list submissions to> prr-talk at dsop.com> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://dsop.com/mailman/listinfo/prr-talk> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> prr-talk-request at dsop.com> > You can reach the person managing the list at> prr-talk-owner at dsop.com> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of PRR-talk digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: [PRR-FAX] My I1s/sa "plumbing" talk from Camp Hill> (PKMac101 at aol.com)> 2. Re: [PRR-FAX] My I1s/sa "plumbing" talk from Camp Hill> (Gary Mittner)> 3. Re: My I1s/sa "plumbing" talk from Camp Hill (Bruce Smith)> 4. Looking for O gauge PRR cabin car (caboose) marker lights> (melissa twigg)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 13:19:55 EDT> From: PKMac101 at aol.com> Subject: Re: [PRR-talk] [PRR-FAX] My I1s/sa "plumbing" talk from Camp> Hill> To: PRR-Talk at dsop.com> Message-ID: <ca3.33324be5.357c1d3b at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > > Bruce,Gary,> What class long tender is with the PCM I1sa? Seems the long > tender version get the modern so called peanut style headlight. The short > tender has the older can style headlight in original postion with claw markers or > relocated old style headlight on top of modernized frontend with bullseys > markers. Just need to know if the tender is the welded type or riveted type > that is coming out and correct class.> > Pat McKinney> > > > > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with > Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://dsop.com/pipermail/prr-talk/attachments/20080607/bfd328a5/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:43:05 -0400> From: mittner at webtv.net (Gary Mittner)> Subject: Re: [PRR-talk] [PRR-FAX] My I1s/sa "plumbing" talk from Camp> Hill> To: PKMac101 at aol.com> Cc: PRR-Talk at dsop.com> Message-ID: <4084-484AE4C9-634 at storefull-3334.bay.webtv.net>> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII> > Pat,> > The long haul tender being released with the I1sa is the 210F82a. It> is the welded side version. PCM will be using the same tender from their> J1a models, the 210F84. There is a very very minor difference between> the two classes but we deemed it "passable" as a stand in for the proper> 210F82a the I1's had. I believe we may not have gotten a long haul> version if that tender wasn't already in their inventory. > > Yes, you understand correctly on the "peanut" headlight being used> when 210F82a tenders were used. However, it was not always the case.> Sometimes, not a lot, but either headlight could be found, on either> version. The research all of us have done to come up with proper road> numbers with the proper details was quite consuming. Photo evidence has> helped confirm this. Now we wait for the final models to see if we> guided PCM through out the process of making these I1's worth the> wait......Gary > > > > > > Come visit my PRR Pages: > > http://www.angelfire.com/film/prrpics/PRR-pages.html> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 16:49:46 -0500 (CDT)> From: "Bruce Smith" <smithbf at vetmed.auburn.edu>> Subject: Re: [PRR-talk] My I1s/sa "plumbing" talk from Camp Hill> To: PKMac101 at aol.com> Cc: prr-talk at dsop.com> Message-ID:> <49199.74.227.245.56.1212875386.squirrel at www.vetmed.auburn.edu>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1> > On Sat, June 7, 2008 12:19 pm, PKMac101 at aol.com wrote:> >> > Bruce,Gary,> > What class long tender is with the PCM I1sa? Seems the long> > tender version get the modern so called peanut style headlight. The short> > tender has the older can style headlight in original postion with claw> > markers or> > relocated old style headlight on top of modernized frontend with> > bullseys> > markers. Just need to know if the tender is the welded type or riveted> > type> > that is coming out and correct class.> >> > Pat McKinney> > Pat,> > As Gary indicated, the tender with the "long" tender version is the> welded, 8 axle 210F82A. You mentioned the riveted tender, and I assume> you mean the six axle 210F82. As I indicated in my talk at Camp Hill,> this tender is unfortunately a "modeling cliche" since Bowser sold so many> with their I1 models. Alas, only one 210F82 was paired with an I1 prior> to WWII, and that tender had commonwealth trucks. Post WWII only another> 5 or so I1s were paired with riveted 210F82s. As a consequence, all those> model locos out there with this tender REALLY over represent the fleet.> > If the corrections we are asking for are made, we expect the version of> the I1sa with the 210F82A to have a mechanical lubricator on the left> side, which will not be the case with the modern I1sa with the 90F82, but> both should have the "peanut" light. This is based on our assessment of> the photo evidence. As Gary indicated, the variety of details on the> I1s/sa is daunting. For example, some locos never swapped the headlight> and generator. Others did, but retained the "can" light, while still> others got the peanut. Lots of fodder in the PCM I1s/sa to make> individual models with specific details!> > Regards> Bruce> > Bruce Smith> Auburn, AL> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 20:47:30 -0400> From: "melissa twigg" <prrbrat at gmail.com>> Subject: [PRR-talk] Looking for O gauge PRR cabin car (caboose) marker> lights> To: PRR-talk at dsop.com> Message-ID:> <8962a9640806071747p341c4af3jf09c77f84849a6b8 at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > I was wondering if anyone could direct me to a site or manafacture of> realistic PRR marker lights for an O gauge cabin car (caboose) that I have> been working on. I bought a older N6b cabin car at a show that was already> assembled I was told it was sold as a kit (wooden with metal details) and I> would like to add marker lights to it. I have attached a picture if this> helps also if anyone has any info on what kind of kit this is that will be> helpful as well.> Thank you,> Melissa & Sam> prrbrat at gmail.com> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://dsop.com/pipermail/prr-talk/attachments/20080607/8c209ebc/attachment.html > -------------- next part --------------> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...> Name: P4260001.JPG> Type: image/jpeg> Size: 1180230 bytes> Desc: not available> Url : http://dsop.com/pipermail/prr-talk/attachments/20080607/8c209ebc/attachment.jpe > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> PRR-talk mailing list> PRR-talk at dsop.com> http://dsop.com/mailman/listinfo/prr-talk> > > End of PRR-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 165> ****************************************
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