[PRR-talk] My I1s/sa "plumbing" talk from Camp Hill

Bruce Smith smithbf at vetmed.auburn.edu
Sat Jun 7 17:49:46 EDT 2008


On Sat, June 7, 2008 12:19 pm, PKMac101 at aol.com wrote:
>
> Bruce,Gary,
>               What class long tender is with the PCM I1sa?  Seems the long
> tender  version get the modern so called peanut style headlight. The short
> tender has the older can style headlight in original postion with claw
> markers or
> relocated old style headlight on top of  modernized frontend  with
> bullseys
> markers. Just need to know if the tender is the welded type or  riveted
> type
> that is coming out and correct class.
>
> Pat McKinney

Pat,

As Gary indicated, the tender with the "long" tender version is the
welded, 8 axle 210F82A.  You mentioned the riveted tender, and I assume
you mean the six axle 210F82.  As I indicated in my talk at Camp Hill,
this tender is unfortunately a "modeling cliche" since Bowser sold so many
with their I1 models.  Alas, only one 210F82 was paired with an I1 prior
to WWII, and that tender had commonwealth trucks.  Post WWII only another
5 or so I1s were paired with riveted 210F82s.  As a consequence, all those
model locos out there with this tender REALLY over represent the fleet.

If the corrections we are asking for are made, we expect the version of
the I1sa with the 210F82A to have a mechanical lubricator on the left
side, which will not be the case with the modern I1sa with the 90F82, but
both should have the "peanut" light.  This is based on our assessment of
the photo evidence.  As Gary indicated, the variety of details on the
I1s/sa is daunting.  For example, some locos never swapped the headlight
and generator.  Others did, but retained the "can" light, while still
others got the peanut.  Lots of fodder in the PCM I1s/sa to make
individual models with specific details!

Regards
Bruce

Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL



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