[PRR-talk] Bowser

[kenneth broomfield]

My Father had(s) a Penn Line H-9. It was his over 30 years ago. Well when I was younger and dumber. It started to fall into disrepair. I tried to solder parts back on but it did not work. I also tried to oil things up and I think that oil got into the motor. Well long story short that now sits on a display shelf and not a runner. I want to get one to "replace" it and also want one that I can attempt to do. I don't think that it should be that hard to do but I just need to stop looking and dive in.
   
  Thanks to everyone who has helped. I am sure I will be back for more.
   
  Kenny Broomfield

ryanhoov at aol.com wrote:
  Once twenty years ago, I had an old Penn Line (pre-Bowser) lead boilered H-9 which never looked right compared to photos or brass models. The boiler front and cab especially were devoid of most detail.  The holes that had to be drilled were extremely troublesome as lead melts at fairly low rpm, grabs the bits and breaks them.  I tried awhile back to obtain an MDC E-6 kit for the boiler, cab and tender, but to no avail.  I finally got rid of it the H-9 and bought Sunset brass H-9 and H-10 locos.  These and an L-1 are prototypes begging for someone to do in state-of-the-art DCC-ready plastic.

  Ryan Hoover

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Smith <smithbf at vetmed.auburn.edu>
To: kenneth broomfield <newtmachineworks at yahoo.com>
Cc: prr-talk at dsop.com
Sent: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 10:08 pm
Subject: Re: [PRR-talk] Bowser


  
On Tue, January 1, 2008 4:37 pm, kenneth broomfield wrote:  > Has anyone built a Bowser steam Kit? Is there any kind of advice for  > someone who has not done one yet? What tools should I have on hand to  > accomplish, drill bits, tap and die set. I have the standard model RR  > tools but not much more. I am wanting to do an H-9. I would also like to  > super detail it as much as I can. Should I super first than paint or the  > paint everything individually? Is there anything that I should change that  > is "wrong" for it to be better Pennsy? I have heard people talk about  > putting a can motor in one? Is that hard to do? Any mods I would have to  > make to the frame or kit? Also what can motor should I get or do they,  > Bowser, have a kit for that as well?  >  >   Kenny Broomfield    Kenny,    To add to what the others have said, several of us built Bowser I1s, or I  should say, several of us used Bowser I1s for starting points, as part of  the PRR Project group, PRRPro.
  You can join and look at the archives of  the PRRPro group at Yahoo (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PRRPro/)    I'm not a big fan of Bowser for a number of reasons.  These include the  grossly oversized rivets, generally poor and often incorrect details,  antique motors and generally incorrect tenders included with most kits.   Bowser kits are excellent examples of what the "state of the art" was  40-50 years ago.  That said, some of Bowser's "kits" can be excellent  starting points.  The best boilers are the reworked I1, T1, and B6.  I  know I had a lot of fun reworking my Bowser I1 into a Juniata built  version (with no feedwater heater) and I have an E6 project using the  Bowser boiler and an MDC tender awaiting me...    Regards  Bruce    Bruce Smith  Auburn, AL    _______________________________________________  PRR-talk mailing list  PRR-talk at dsop.com  http://dsop.com/mailman/listinfo/prr-talk  

    
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